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I was blocked to post reply in old thread. I have to start a new thread.
That's an important distinction, bass, between stupid and ignorant. Thanks.
Besides the fact that the abortion comment has
nothing to do with the discussion at hand, you need
to take a good look at the Constitution. Nowhere in
that most amazing document are the rights of the "unborn"
protected. Fact is, until you're born, you are not a
citizen. The Constitution is silent on it. I have
little doubt that with the new Justices on the Supreme
Court that Roe v Wade will be history, but it won't
matter. It will fall to the states, and many will
preserve Choice. Those that don't will likely see a
rise in the number of unwed mothers, the poverty rate,
and fatality rates in young women, because making
abortion illegal will not stop it. Anybody with half
a brain knows that. Of course, it seems to me that
the only lives that matter to most "right-to-lifers"
are the fetuses. Not the women who carry them, who
are obviously "sinners." Not the babies, once they're
born. (Ever notice how folks who think welfare should
be reformed, and even eliminated tend to be "Pro-Life?)
Certainly not the doctors who provide women with a
legal medical procedure. Some folks seem to believe they
deserve to be killed. That's real "Pro-Life," isn't it?
Oh, and in response to the part about who the
Constitution protects? My understanding is that one
end of these wiretaps is within the United States.
Therefore, any warrantless wiretap is a violation of
the 4th Amendment which says:
The right of the people to be secure in their
persons, houses, papers, and effects, against
unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be
violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon
probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation,
and particularly describing the place to be
searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
The government has a court to go to to obtain a
warrant, yet the Administration chose to not do so.
There is no way to defend this. They broke tha law.
If you can prove everything you have stated, you've
got one heck of a lawsuit. Do the American thing, sue.
This administration operates from the perspective of
"say it enough times and it becomes the truth." So
it has been with Saddam & 9/11, so it has been for
WMD's, etc. People start to believe it because it's
all they hear from most media. Most "everyday folks"
don't want to be bothered with such inconveniences as
having to think for themselves. They might miss
"American Idol." Are they stupid? Without a doubt,
some must be. Mostly, what they are is ignorant,
and content to be so.
The only people you'll find with something positive to say about PR firms are those who are in the industry!
Hope you've found some help. If not, why not try these folks:
http://www.whistleblowers.org/
Iraq war will cost between 1 to 2 Trillion Dollars.
We could have gone to mars, inspired and challenged the world and reaped a century of technological benefits.
We could have fed all the starving people of the world.
We could have defeated AIDs removing immense suffering from the human race.
We could have given the best educations and maybe even a college education to all of our children.
Instead we will have another legacy of violence and probably defeat, with mistrust among our allies and hatred from our enemies.
Another generation of our brave young men (and now women) returning to try and live a "normal" life with the scars of war
lingering in their souls - with little real help or honor provided to them from the politicians that sent them into that hell.
Is going to war the answer to this worlds problems? Examine the real costs versus the real benefits .
Could we have done better than this? Are we playing right into the game plan of the terrorists?
Compare real life to sports. Who wins the ball game?
Isn't it the team that doesn't get "shook up" and distracted but goes in and plays "their game - their way" and wins?
What do we do best in America?
What are our real assets in the war on terrorism?
Is it our brute military and CIA force or our Christian Heritage, our freedoms and our economic and technological resources?
Here is just one example of thinking out of the "war box". Convert all our gas powered devices over to alternative fuels and resources within 5 years or less. Help our allies and all others interested to do the same. We gain vast new revenues, job opportunitys and investment capital while ultimately reducing the middle east conflicts and leftist oil rich countrys agendas into becoming "irrelevant to us" - possibly forcing them to deal with their own cultural inequities, lack of industrialization and education, their political and religious extremism, and ultimately to begin to act like real citizen nations of the world - if they don't have the oil money they dont have the means to fund and promote their radical agendas.
Just an idea . . .
Think about it.
Got any better ideas?
We need a "great" vision for the 21st Century. Something to really inspire us, our children and our future grandchildren.
Quote, "You have selective hearing as other political figures such as the Democrat Governor of Louisiana also claimed responsible.
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You distract. I talk about President Bush. Will a police let the thief leaving because he can't catch other thieves?
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Quote, "Now you are not only way out on a limb you are not even in the same political system. We elect our President in the United States every four years and if we feel he/she did a poor job we either choose not to vote or vote against him/her. If illegal activity is suspected there is an impeachment proceedings such as were done against Clinton when he was accused of committing a serious felony. "
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So lie to cover a personal affair is more serious than to lie the whole country for an unjust war? There is hypocrisy here.
352. Pre-psychological propaganda (10/22/05)
On 7/7 and 7/21, there were bombings took place in London. It was a cover up operation to justify the plotted master bombing in US. To deceive the public that these were the work of Al Qaida. The unusual events happened in same day (July 21) may prove my allegation.(see #330)
Then Feds planned a big action day in September.(9/24) They also planned an elimination of my family members and arranged a trip accident for them. To make the accident not so unusual, Feds, too, prepared a series of airplane accidents to cover up it. In three weeks from 8/14 to 9/5, there were four big air accidents.
1. On 8/14, a Greece plane crashed near Athens, 121 killed.
2. On 8/16, a West Caribbean Airways plane crashed in Venezuela; 152 killed.
3. On 8/24, a TANS Peru plane crashed in the Amazon jungle, killing 37.
4. On 9/5, an Indonesian jetliner crashed in North Sumatra, killing at least 60 of passengers. (The above information were from news of the day.)
When I first heard of Greece accident, I only impressed by the mysterious situation (lack of oxygen, frozen) before its crash. But when the Peru air crash took place, I realize it might be an operation to cover up a coming air accident. My relatives were arranged in a trip between 9/10 and 9/17. If an accident happened, it would be easily added one more to the above list and wouldn't cause any notice. That's why I talked about this twice in 9/2 and 9/7. (see #339, 340)
Pre-psychological influence is a very important tactic Feds uses. We have seen scenes such like Lewinsky scandal, Wen Ho Lee's case, WMD in Iraq..... The recent one is the hurricane Katrina and Rita. Which mainly planned to justify for a high rising inflation. So media want us expecting a gas of 5.00/gallon because most of the oil platforms in the Gulf of Mexico were damaged by hurricane and so was for many oil refineries. That how much money would spend for the refugee and re-build.(e.g. 400,000 people live in the hotels and how much that costs for one day's rent) Now these kind of information are disappeared from media. Or proved to be exaggerated. What I see is the oil dropped below $60.00 a barrel.(10/26) Why, because the framed case went sour and Feds still must keep the interest rate as low as they can to maintain a high housing market.
If the framed case have went successfully, I believe you would meet another face of media. Then you would have believed that all that sudden jumping high inflation was caused by oil and the natural disaster.
The latest movement of propaganda activated by Feds is the Bird Flu. That's another psychological war to justify a new slaughter in the name of natural disaster. Watch how the media propaganda it under the command of Feds.
The Birmingham Times [http://www.al.com/search/index.ssf?/base/business/1137752724193590.xml?birminghamnews?bnews&coll=2&thispage=1 has more information], including contradictory claims about Rev. Henderson's role:
I recently heard a related news story--at least I think I did--on NPR: Canadians coming to the U.S. for medical care because of long, long waits for even diagnostic procedures. The story included an interview with a U.S. businessman who operates a tour company/travel company for Canadians; the company even opened an office next to a major hospital in Canada because the demand for such trips was so high--according to the story. It seemed like a PR piece for those who want to keep private insurance/avoid govt. provided, universal health care in the U.S. I wanted to check it out--
BUT I haven't been able to find the story on any NPR websites or by Googling for it.
Did I dream this story?
Please let me know if you heard it. If you heard it and remember what show/when, that'd be great.
You can contact me by way of : hathawas@aaps.k12.mi.us
a huge amount of this "research" money goes to marketing firms
who write papers promoting off-label uses. These firms then
pay doctors to put their names on them.
because I can't resist a big Ha Ha! I am not of fan of his for so many reasons. As I size acceptance advocate I am repulsed by his suggestions to solve the obesity "crisis" by eliminating plus sized clothing lines. All the while minimizing the risks of second hand smoke, pesticides, and global warming. It is so obvious he is a hired hack trying to distract the public with their personal "failings" and lifestyle issues so we will turn a blind eye to all the ways corporations are killing us. He is certainly mean enough to work for Monsanto, often retorting with personal attacks. (Not that I am any angel in that respect if pushed either!) My apologies to the canines of the world, but it is true. Every dog does get his day! First DeLay, now Fumento. Dubya, you can't be so far behind!!!!
The Republican "contract with America" was broken in 2000 by the Supremes 5-4. And Hilary joins up with Newt to feed from the pockets of Pfizer. Can you trust either party? And the Heritage Foundation? William L. Shirer would have another book proposal.
Uncle Hippie
"In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."--Orwell
PR Week (sub req'd) [http://www.prweek.com/us/home/article/535688/army-asking-bloggers-morale-boost/ has an interesting addition] to the story of the U.S. Army contract with Hass MS&L:
According to the article "[http://www.military.com/features/0,15240,85093,00.html DoD Plans for Life After the QDR]" (InsideDefense.com, January 11, 2006), the Pentagon's "strategic communications" review will be led by "Lawrence DiRita, principal deputy assistant secretary of defense for public affairs, and Air Force Lt. Gen. Victor Renuart, Joint Staff director for strategic plans and policy. This panel will define missions and develop doctrine for strategic communications, including public affairs, [[information operations]] and defense support to [[public diplomacy]]."
This illusory notion of psychological freedom - which somehow arises from a process of self-reflection - sounds very much like it's founded on ideas of conscience and selfhood, themselves but crumbling remains from a much more naive humanist era.
What you have to come to terms with is the fact that, as the philosopher Paul Ricoeur puts it, you are "condemned to meaning". Simply put, even your notion of freedom, in all its guises, is itself caught up in a network of meaning and significance that is beyond your control.
What does this suggest? It suggests that you are always, and unavoidably, going to be immersed, or 'manipulated' if you like, even when you think you have broken free from the 'masses'. This breaking free - how it can 'mean' anything - puts you right back in the maelstrom I'm afraid.
You are already within the world of your concern, and you respond and disseminate meaning that is beyond your control. This 'war' that you're fighting, is perhaps an attempt to find something more beyond that. Sadly, there is nothing beyond...you have substituted 'heaven' for 'psychological freedom'...in 'essence', there's no difference...
371. The revenge of D.O.J. (1/7/06)
Bush is only a puppet. When his illegal activity was revealed, his master jumped out to protect. Instead of investigating Bush's unconstitutional action, Justice Department starts to probe the leak of spying program.
It seems they assume nobody knows that US government is eavesdropping on its citizens. As a matter of fact, it's a common sense that FBI and other intelligence are spying on us in a broad range. We know there are Carnivore, Echolon..... There are so many information about secret eavesdropping. Have you ever seen the investigation from D.O.J.? The money spent on secret spying is huge. Are these enormous organization only deal with a few Al Qaide? It's a joke to think that Al Qaida won't alert that they may under surveillance if they communicate with an electronic system. Even innocent Muslim and non Muslim Americans would think their communication be intercepted by big brother.
What the leak of spying program will hurt? It only proves the long existing suspicion of secret spying is true. That Bush did something illegal.(unconstitutional).
The following is an information known by public. The time is Jan. 1st 2001. Such kind of knowledge was common sense. Similar information were popular in internet then. But it didn't point to Bush and D.O.J.. So nothing happened. Now D.O.J. jump their feet on the leak of "secret spying". Is that funny?
Re: SPYING ON US
BY JIM WILSON
Illustration by Paul DiMare
Published on: January 1, 2001
The secret is out. Two powerful intelligence gathering tools that the United States created to eavesdrop on Soviet leaders and to track KGB spies are now being used to monitor Americans. One system, known as Echelon, intercepts and analyzes telephone calls, faxes and e-mail sent to and from the United States. The other system, Tempest, can secretly read the displays on personal computers, cash registers and automatic teller machines, from as far as a half mile away. Although the inner workings of both systems remain classified, fueling exaggerated claims about their capabilities on Internet sites, credible detail has at last begun to emerge. It comes chiefly from foreign governments that began investigating American surveillance activities after discovering that the Echelon system had been used to spy on their defense contractors. From those documents it is possible to obtain the first accurate view of the threats high-tech spying poses to our right to privacy. We think you will agree it also creates a real and present threat to our freedom.
http://popularmechanics.com/science/military/2001/1/spying_on_us/
351. Hurricane (2) (continue to #345) (10/17/05)
2. New Orleans was selected to be a sacrifice.
(1) Most residents there are black people. It accords to consistent deed of Feds. Black is always the sacrifice.
(2) Hurricane used to cause damage. But that's not enough to bring public's attention. To reach the aim of distract, they need news of death, a lot of deaths. Nothing can help them to achieve this goal more than to drown a city. And New Orleans was a city fits Feds' demand. They knew this at least four years ago. The reality is exactly the same as Civil Engineering predicted.
Quote,
CIVIL ENGINEERING (October 2001 issue )
Drowning New Orleans
A major hurricane could swamp New Orleans under 20 feet of water, killing thousands.
By Mark Fischetti
http://tinyurl.com/eyrrl
(3) A news rarely reported by mainstream media:
Locals, Officials Suggest Levees were Intentionally Blown
Evidence suggests there were "cracks" in levees that were intentionally ignored, questions over how they failed.
Steve Watson, September 9 2005
Could the levees in New Orleans have been INTENTIONALLY blown out in order to provide the justification for total FEMA federal takeover?
The locals certainly seem to think so, yet, as usual, the mainstream media is barely picking up on this wave of opinion, so it is left to us once again to bring the issue into the open.
http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/forum/thread9413.html
3. Artificial characters of Katirina and Rita and their similarity.
(1) Timing:
Both took six days to develop from a tropical storm to a strong hurricane to land the coast. Katrina was a tropical storm on 8/24, it developed to a category 5 hurricane on 8/28 and landed the coast on 8/29. (the 6th day) Rita was a tropical storm on 9/19, It developed to category 4 then weakened to category 3 on 9/23, (as I have said, the framed case went sour so it was unnecessary to make bigger damage) it landed on 9/24 (the 6th day)
(2) Route.
Both hurricanes started from Bahamas. Both moved westwards to the Gulf of Mexico. They marched without any hesitation. The chart shows their routes are two smooth lines.
(3) Steady development
Both two hurricanes developed in an evenly step that in final day Katrina upgraded to category 5, (Rita would have)
(4) Accuracy.
In Mercury News of 9/20, (the information must be of 9/19, when Rita was still an original tropical storm) there was a map showing the route Rita would take. It specifies the location and timing of Rita. The late development proves it was approximately correct with particular accuracy on timing.
A strong artificial hurricane needs following condition:
(1) A big operation of chemical spreading in large area for days.
(2) To form a hurricane, even with the help of chemistry, it still needs a large amount of water vapour. So it must be in an area with rich water supply. .
The Gulf of Mexico is an ideal area for such practice. (Of course, the most important thing is that New Orleans is there.) Then you see two similar hurricanes formed and moved along the coast. Far enough in the ocean to have plenty water vapour supply, near enough to save the cost of operation. They gathered strength within 6 days and moved in a direct line. Because any extra day or way out of line were unnecessary which would have been a waste. (to be continued)
In my opinion, we all have the capacity to believe in a Higher Power. That capacity is often manipulated by wisened members of society before we realize, within ourselves, the full extent of it. For my part, I have formulated my own views of the Higher Power and continued existence beyond this life span is my hope--my prayer.
Psychological Freedom is the core issue.
while reading the Corporate Social Responsibility blog about the tobacco companies i felt the familiar outrage that erupts every time i see a tobacco company listed as a sponsor for something that represents life-, being healthy, physically fit, not being a slave to nicotine. I understand that it was part of the Philip Morris settlement/judgment agreement to focus attention- and TV commercials to this "educating young people not to smoke". When my 14year old son first witnessed this absurd commercial he looked at me, puzzled by the message...."don't smoke kids" ------ yet they are allowed to keep right on selling the product? Shouldn't the settlement agreement have TV commercials warning kids of the dangers of smoking, then show a picture of their mom and dad's lungs? As an ex-ex-smoker I know how hard it is to quit. I would just like to know how a settlement agreement such as this was ever fashioned by attorneys who truly represent the injured party, the plaintiff.
I have copied below an email I sent about a year ago to Family Education Network in response to their weekly email newsltter where they cite Philip Morris being afflilated somehow with their "Family Education" website.i never received a reply other than the automated one..
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 23:16:50 -0500 (Z)
"Family Education Network"
Subject: i wish to only comment on philip morris being a part of your website- i fully... [Incident:050309-000862]
Thank you for contacting Family Education Network! We will respond to
you as soon as possible.
Customer (Jean ) - 03/09/2005 11:16 PM
i wish to only comment on philip morris being a part of your website- i fully understand what they are trying to do- to discourage young
people from smoking- but just how stupid do they think we are? how stupid do they think kids are? when i think about philip morris backing a ballet company???- -- what about the lungs of the dancers? i think it is an insult to my intelligence and to the intelligence of my children for philip morris to be telling my kids to not smoke and turning around and pushing the same product to me- the parent----why not come out and advertise this:: "KIDS- DON'T SMOKE- BUT IT'S FINE IF WE KILL YOUR MOM AND DAD"
I vote Republican because there is no way you can obey the U.S. Constitution and insure the blessings of liberty for ourselves and our posterity and still advocate the killing of that same posterity through abortion. I do not agree with them on a good share of items but considering the Democrats hate the ideals this nation was founded on, I have no where else to go.
Taxes have always been an issue in the United States. We chose to rebel against Great Britain because of taxes they felt were justly leveled. Our fore fathers cried for security from the French and Indians but were reluctant to foot the bill and used every method to dodge the could think of. That contradiction is part of the American spirit that our government needs to learn to deal with.
I do not complain about income tax except to say most if all deductions need to removed. It is perhaps unfair of me as I am in the lower tax bracket and so am unable to claim the vast majority of those taxes. I don’t think so because I believe those who have received more from the government should be expected to give more. On the other hand the poor and disadvantaged are dependent on the government for the basic necessaries of life such as food, water, air, shelter. Health care does not qualify though it is nice. Like anyone else it is best if the government would pay their bills or at least be careful who they are borrowing from. Lone sharks like China are dangerous to deal with. The Sixteenth Amendment is not a problem. The Seventeenth which was most likely also the GOP’s fault is a disaster as it removed the balance between state and federal governmental powers.
I favor cutting costs and the tax code and not raising taxes. I certainly think a sales tax or a flat tax are insane. A fair number of Republican believe the same thing.
Kerwin
To continue the fight to insure the blessing of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness for ourselves and our children yet unborn is the mark of a true American Patriot.
Kerwin
Before you run off with your mouth and decide what is and is not Constitutional your might want to read the Constitution. You may also want to here more details about the action which constitutionality you are checking. The Constitution only protects the rights of citizens of the United States under the jurisdiction of the United States. So as long as the individuals whose communication in not an American or is not in the jurisdiction of America their communications can legally be bugged. There are justification for a warrantless searches. I have no ideal if these situations that occurred meet any of this criteria because the details have not been let out. The security letters of the Patriot Act have me more concerned. But they are a minor breach of the Constitution when compared with the Democrats and their pro-choice allies denying the blessings of liberty to the posterity of American citizens by deliberately and arbitrarily killing them through abortion.
To continue the fight to insure the blessing of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness for ourselves and our children yet unborn is the mark of a true American Patriot.
kathaksung wrote:
Quote, ""It is true that much of the intelligence turned out to be wrong,'' Bush said. ``As president, I'm responsible for the decision to go into Iraq.''
My response:
I wondered what he means by this since Congress is the won who declares war and the President’s power as commander and chief is limited if they choose not to. Then there is this nonsense that Bush fed them false information. The last I heard Congress also had the power to have hearing and is not required to rely on the information supplied by the President and his administration. What were the Democrat to intimidated to seek an alternative source of information. Someone had better remind the people of the United States how their political process works before the President is informally granted the power to declare war by the un-American evolving constitution radicals.
kathaksung wrote:
We heard he took responsibility for the slow reaction to the Katrina hurricane. Three months later, what has he done? I only heard that refugee's hotel expense will be cut soon. Is there any plan to help then? Where is the plan to re-build New Orleans?
My response:
You have selective hearing as other political figures such as the Democrat Governor of Louisiana also claimed responsible. I personally think the federal government is biting off more than they can chew by making promises to rebuild New Orleans. Thanks to the high level of socialism and military spending in the United States the “free” country of China and others own our mortgage contract.
It is certain that bureaucracy caused the slow response to Katrina. I heard complaints from our allies who attempted to aid us and also from individuals and groups trying to aid the refugees stranded or driven out by Katrina. I suspicion that the difference in government philosophies between the Republican and Democratic parties did not help any. The Democrats believe the federal government should be the organizer while the Republicans believe the state and local government should.
kathaksung wrote:
Fiorina didn't run HP well. She was ousted. Steward traded four thousands shares by inside information. She took a prison sentence. CEO of World.com abused their powers, they are in jail. What does Bush take for the loss of thousands lives and the miss-spent of huge amount of money?
My response:
Now you are not only way out on a limb you are not even in the same political system. We elect our President in the United States every four years and if we feel he/she did a poor job we either choose not to vote or vote against him/her. If illegal activity is suspected there is an impeachment proceedings such as were done against Clinton when he was accused of committing a serious felony.
kathaksung wrote:
And why until now there is no investigation how the "wrong information" caused the war. What the role he played in it?
My response:
Did you ever hear of the 9/11 committee. Well the same sources of the bad information that failed to warn us of that attack was the same sources used to justify war on Iraq. We call it our Intelligence services and their quality has been lacking for years. Supposedly they repaired it but I will believe it when I see it.
Kerwin
To continue the fight to insure the blessing of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness for ourselves and our children yet unborn is the mark of a true American Patriot.