My solution was intended to be forward moving, not regressive. Although there was a time before the Crusades when muslims, jews, and christians did live in harmony in Jerusalem.
Some people, especially those in power, believe that conflict is ineviatable and necessary. They and weapons manufacturers should be restricted to the income an an infantry soldier.
The [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4726270.stm BBC News reports] that Syrian groups will get $5 million as well:
The US has announced it is to give $5m (£2.87m) in grants to pro-democracy groups in Syria. The funds are aimed at "accelerating the work of reformers", a State Department statement said. ... The move is part of the Middle East Partnership Initiative (Mepi) launched by the US in 2002 to promote reform in the Middle East.
dh,
At no point did I claim that the people of Iraq, or
elsewhere suffer from hubris. Just the opposite.
It's the Bush Administration that is prone to it.
They believe that they know what's best, and they're
always right. Example: bringing Democracy to others
will make everything better. But wait, the
Palestinians elected Hamas, we didn't want that!
The Iraqi people will welcome us with open arms. Some
will, but others will welcome us with arms of a
different type. It's an incredibly paternalistic
view of the world, and it's wrong. I'm all for self-dtermination,
but it should truly be SELF-determination. Not the US's
view of it.
If the Arabic countries are so upset about "seeing
their Palestinian brethren humiliated and brutalized
on a daily basis for 39 years" why have they done
the same? The Palestinians have not been particularly
welcome anywhere. In some countries, they were mistreated.
Why is Israel responsible for the solution? And, just
to make the Israeli arguement, if they want to be
treated better, perhaps they should stop killing people.
The military strategy accomplished the wholesale sacking of the Iraq Army and overthrow of the Iraq government. It was executed brilliantly, albiet with some deficiencies, as was the 1990 campaign.
Are you sure you're not asking me about the political strategy and the politics of the military-industrial complex? It seems you are more concerned about the political operations (foreign policy, WMD, etc.) than the military operations.
The guy to whom I was speaking is an Anti-American purveyor of hatered. I have a strong belief in checking our actions and evaluating our positions but I have no time for hatred, double speak and disinformation. The author of that garbage is no friend of yours or mine and he would kill us both, with his own hands, if he had the chance; don't kid yourself into thinking otherwise. He is a pompous jackass with a small mind and a tiny microphone, who is attempting to push his amplitude beyond his abilities by employing his inadequate, rudimentary "skill." Don't be fooled by the tin tongue of a "little Hitler."
dh
The obvious is always obvious; and, nothing is ever as it appears.
"If anything I've read in the book is even close to the truth, I'd have to agree"
That's a pretty big if, don't you think?
Especially as some of it's coming from a guy who went
to prison for shredding documents to cover up the
Iran-Contra affair.
All evidence points to a lack of planning and understanding
of the situation in Iraq. Remember how the troops
were going to be greeted as "liberators?" This was
not planned by military strategists, but by political
ones. And it was done to satisfy the whims of a
spoiled rich kid, used to getting what he wants. He
wanted to look like a "leader," not the pathetic excuse
for a grown-up he really is
In a [http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060221/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/rumsfeld follow-up to the above story], Rumsfeld says he misspoke when he said the [[Lincoln Group]] propaganda program in Iraq had been stopped:
"I don't have knowledge as to whether it's been stopped. I do have knowledge it was put under review. I was correctly informed. And I just misstated the facts," Rumsfeld said at a Pentagon news briefing. ... He said that Gen. George Casey, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, was reviewing the practice. Previously, Casey has said he saw no reason to stop it.
i posted the fix for the text under the right division in the forum text boxes a while ago. For me, using Firefox, the fix was to change my default monospace font-size to 14 or less.
Goto Tools-->Options-->Content
Then under Fonts and colors push the advanced tab, and next to the monospace font selection is the font-size setting.
"Oh my God! The dead have risen and they're voting Republican!"
Bart Simpson The Simpsons Show 2F02 "Sideshow Bob Roberts" - aired Oct. 9, 1994
For a military "stretegist" you don't seem to understand military protocol. Once the US finish liberating everybody, Canadian Peacekeepers head over to clean up the mess, dodge "friendly fire" and give aid.
The "brilliant suggestion" was aimed at long term goals. Your comments of an "American bloodbath" could be seen as paranoid, but more likely you were identifying the reality that US foreign policy is fueling hatred towards Americans. Hatred fuels terrorism. There is a WAR on terror. Kind of ironic, hey Dark Horse?
Y'know, they say Lockheed Martin was in financial trouble 5 years ago.
Okay, I challenge you to explain what US military strategy has accomplished in Iraq during this war. It'll be fun! I'll time you.
JG
PS: Doesn't it seem like Saddam is going to win his court case?
"Main stream media utilizes the basest attributes of humanity in its 'news' reporting and 'entertainment' programming because that's all its limited focus can handle. The bottom line is its main concern--not Freedom, not Truth--money!"
Really?~ You mean like Oliver North's program and G. Gordon Liddy's program and Rush Limbaugh's program and Michael Savitch's program?
Better keep reading. Read more books, research all of your sources, learn more about their political leanings, learn more about what else they have written, learn more about the causes they have supported in the past. Research and understand the people you quote before you quote them.
dh
The obvious is always obvious; and, nothing is ever as it appears.
Are you serious? Downsize to the Bagdad Airport?! Well, that would make us a nice easy target, wouldn't it? Why, we could be surrounded and attacked at will by the resident insurgents. What a genius!
Perhaps there is another approach that might be more sensible, eh?
Based on your other comments posted on this board, I am beginning to think you'd personally like to be there, to participate in the American bloodbath that would occur as a result of your "brilliant" suggestion.
Why do you hate the United States so much? Why do you wish us such ill will?
dh
The obvious is always obvious; and, nothing is ever as it appears.
Pressuring Israel to disarm is a strawman. Afterall, there are no nukes in Israel, right?
Ah, one bull sires another.
Here are two statements upon which one might analyze this situation:
Statement Number One: "Israel has no nuclear weapons."
Statement Number Two: "Iran means Israel no harm, therefore Israel needs no nuclear weapons."
You see? Pretty simple isn't it? This is the nature of disengenuous statements such as yours. Intelligent people laugh at them and at those who offer them. Your comments are those of one who presents himself as a low level rhetorical hack.
The fact remains: Israel absolutely must retain its superiority in the middle-east if it is to survive. Neither the United States nor the International Community would attempt to compel Israel to do anything that would leave it vulnerable, specifically because the Arab countries would descend upon its neck with sabers.
You don't like that, so you post your prose, behind a very thin veil, hoping to influence the ignorant.
If you want to posit that the creation of the Israeli state was a crime and that it violates the laws of the very world goverment who founded it, why don't you make your argument like a man? It is not a bad argument but it has to live or die on its own merits.
It is always bad policy to patronize your audience; it is an even worse policy to treat them with contempt.
dh
The obvious is always obvious; and, nothing is ever as it appears.
Why would one project his own perceptions of American "hubris" onto a population he does not know or understand? I think it would not surprise most people to know that most of the people to whom you refer do not stop to ask themselves -let alone do they care- how we perceive them.
Doesn't it strike you as odd that you are so willing to give someone a "free pass" to despise you because you are part of a successful country?
Don't get me wrong, I am no fan of the current imperialistic fervor, however, neither am I unable to recognize that if it weren't us in this position, it would be someone else in this position. That is the nature of men, women and the societies they agree upon.
Let's get something straight: These people to whom you refer are being most immediately subjegated by their own governments, not us. We are merely their largest customer.
Have you seen the palaces, the islands, the automobiles, the gilt and gold and silver and opulence, which goes well beyond most of us "Rich Americans'" wildest abilities to imagine wealth, currently in posession of the leaders of ALL middle-eastern countries? Now take a moment and contrast that opulence against the broad, sweeping and deeply despairing poverty of the vast majority of their people.
Give me a break! The US is not their most immediate problem, their own governments are their primary and most immediate threat.
You think the French Revolution was bad? "You ain't seen nothin' yet!"
These people are just now waking up and while it is very convenient for their governments to point at us as the bad guy in order to draw the heat away from themselves, ultimately these people realize that we have actually been paying the bills expected of us, and it has been their leaders who have absconded with their birthright.
... as a Spin of the Day, here:
http://www.prwatch.org/node/4486
Interesting to note that, although the Bush admin. has surely exhibited a penchant for secrecy, this program is being attributed to the CIA and other spy agencies.
372. Justice Department to probe Leak on Spying Program
There are two kinds of leaking.
1. The leak was done by Feds itself to revenge at their dislikes. Such like "Watergate"case. President Nixon intended to reform D.O.J.. Then there was a deep throat to leak a scandal. Nixon had to resign the job. D.O.J. never did an investigation because it was done by itself. An FBI agent.
Or the Plame's case. D.O.J. never did an active investigation on it. Because the person likely is a member of Bush's administration.
Re: Nixon's case: (the references are two articles I have posted before. I re-post for your convenience.)
295. Who controls D.O.J.? (3/7/05)
Former President Kennedy was assassinated. Former President Clinton was impeached. All these revealed that even in top position, US politicians are under the control of intelligence. They were under the surveillance. They were extorted, blackmailed by intelligence. If they disobeyed, then they were punished by scandal, or even been assassinated.
Former President Nixon was almost impeached. He lost his post in oval office in early 70's. The formal reason was he lied to cover up a tape which might reveal his awareness of illegal campaign activity. But lie and dirty campaign activity were common among high ranking politicians. It was only an excuse. Then what was the real purpose?
In March 2002, a news helped me resolved several puzzles. It was a tape of Nixon's conversation with former treasury secretary Connally.
Re:
Quote, "Nixon Defended Envoy's Groping
1972 Tapes Also Reveal Talk of a Justice Dept. 'Full of Jews'
By George Lardner Jr.
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, March 1, 2002; Page A02
"Oh! Oh, God!" Nixon said with a sigh. "It erodes our confidence, our strength. They're untrustworthy. . . . Look at the Justice Department, it's full of Jews."
"Any place of power," Connally agreed. "SEC used to be -- all of them, those lawyers."
"Listen, the lawyers in government are damn Jews," Nixon said.
Both men agreed that Nixon should try to reduce the Jewish influence in a second term. Nixon told Connally on May 15 that he wanted no more than 2 percent of the government's political appointees to be Jewish, in proportion to the population. He later said 10 percent would be acceptable, "but certainly not 30 or 40 percent."
I then knew who control Justice department and why Nixon lost his job.
Nixon realized that there was a disproportion of government political appointees to the population. He thought it was not for the interest of US and tried to change that situation. He faced an impeach and had to resign before he could do it.
Now I know why Sharon said, "Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it." - Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, to Shimon Peres, October 8th, 2001
Israel controls D.O.J.. D.O.J. controls FBI. And FBI keep Americans under surveillance, include Presidents.
2. If the leak was done to reveal the scandal of Feds or Bush administration. Then they did an active job to revenge at the purpose to silence it. Justice Department to probe Leak on Spying Program belongs to this one. It's an intimidation on lawmakers to pass the Patriot Act because it will terminated in five weeks.
Re:
89. Polygraph law makers (9/25/02)
In early June, a news said the conversations between Khalid Shaikh Mohammed and Mohammed Atta were intercepted by NSA. It said in two separate conversations on Sept. 10, 2001 contained the phrases "Tomorrow is zero hour" and "The match is about to begin.". Since these two phrases are vague one and consider NSA intercepts 2 million conversations in each hour, the pick up of these two phrases was not a coincidence. It proves that Atta was under surveillance by government earlier before 911.
Then FBI said it was a secret intelligence information which shouldn't be let out public. They are investigating who has leaked it. They target on law makers and even request a polygraph.
But who will investigate the secret information leaking committed by intelligence itself?
When the news said Atta made contact to Iraq diplomat in Czech and talked about bombing plot, it revealed that Atta and Iraq diplomat were under surveillance and it revealed the Czech intelligence was cooperated with USA.
There was another similar news release. By February 2001, NSA had broken the bin Laden's communications encryption system. What we know from the information government released is that OBL talked to his mother two days before 911 attack, "In two days, you're going to hear big news, and you're not going to hear from me for a while." It let people know that Bin laden's communication was under surveillance as long as 6 months before 911. And his communication code was broken.
Nobody could release such information but intelligence. Though the original purpose of news about Atta and Iraq diplomat was to target on Iraq to frame it linking with 911 terrorist, so administration could have excuse to start a war with Iraq. And the news of Bin Laden's intercepted conversation was used as a legal base for Bush to start war in Afghan. These leaking are as important as the Atta's "Tomorrow is zero huor" one. Why FBI had a blind eye on these leaking? Because they were released by intelligence?
The secret information leaking FBI accused of took place in early June, at a time when lawmakers and 911 victims were going to investigate failure of intelligence of 911 attack with an independent commission. It could be a trap set up by intelligence. They use this method to retaliate, or extort law makers to avoid investigation on their own flaw or crime. Or try to reach a compromise.
If we don't know these "secrecy", we will believe what government said that they had known nothing before 911 attack. "Secret" is only a stonewall they used to cover up their corruption.
Now let's go back to Anthony Carr's prophecy again.The two paragraph without picture. (see #324)
1. Meteorite hits US. A super size meteorite will hit a desert city of America.
2. Big lake area will become a water country. Storm will sweep over the boundary of US and Canada. There will be a great flooding in Big Lake area. Few boat will survive it as Noah's Ark. Besides, nuclear explosion will cause tsunami in Cuba. Half of Cuba will be drowned.
Since I think Anthony Carr's words were no more than Inside group's project covered up by the name of "prophecy", I kept an eye on "tsunami, flooding and meteorite."
In December 2004, there came the Big tsunami. In August 2005, there came the big flooding in New Orleans. Then what about meteorite? It came in December 2004 though didn't draw much attention. Here are news about it.
Quote, "Meteor Explodes Over Jakarta
Josh Pringle
Sunday, December 19, 2004
Astronomers say a meteor likely exploded over the Indonesian capital of Jakarta Sunday morning.
Witnesses say there was a bright object with a tail of fire streaked across the sky, and then there was a loud explosion.
Quote, "Unknown object falls on Indonesia
Meteor or bomb? Officials not sure, no injuries known
Jakarta, Indonesia (AP)
Indonesia air force radar detected an unidentified object falling toward the Earth at a great speed before disappearing at around the same time as the noise was heard.
Police have been on high alert in Indonesia in recent days after several Western governments reported that Islamist militants, blamed for a series of attacks in recent years, were planning more bombings."
(Mercury News, 12/19/04)
I believe it was an experiment of space weapon. A practice of a missile cruised in space to hit the target on earth. But a missile is not a meteor. Everything would be clear if there was an investigation. That's why the news drew a tail, to hint it might be a terrorist bombing. But they could make people believe that without any practical exercises, (hundreds of hours at least, I suppose) the students of flight school could actually drive a modern plane to hit any target they wanted. It's still hard to ensure people that Bin Laden also has a space weapon. So we never hear anything further about that meteor.
It's not a coincidence that both events which Anthony Carr prophecied (tsunami and meteor) took place in Indonesia, almost at same time. (12/19/04 for meteor, one week later, on 12/26, for tsunami)
Because two months ago, in October that year, Yudhoyono became the President of Indonesia. Inside group then had a safe place to carry out their experiment for new technology under the protection of a puppet dictator.
What about the flooding? Eight months later, we saw Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans.
All in a life can be simplified and here as I understand the following situation: the country received the certain income from export (which probably has already been allocated for some nearest years) but then there was a unforeseen situation(illness). Further many organizations tried to solve a problem in the image, but result is one - infection was not supervised, and the budget has lost a plenty of money. For such situation all is standard, but also to make anything it was impossible - to reduce charges only.
With best wishes, "Russian Post"
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The government again starts to create intrigues. The new program of anti-terror? Huh. Government's last actions has simply nothing to cover the dark affairs, they and have created this stupid "antiterrorist" program. If to think it is very convenient - if you need to remove any person not necessarily him to arrest and then to prove to press that this person it is dangerous not personally to you and represents the international threat. And now all is easier - we specify a finger the person and speak - "He's represent threat of national safety". All are pleased and happy. The world is rescued from terror.
With best wishes, "Russian Post"
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This is a bullshit! How it's possible to make such things? Most of all I am interested by how it is possible to reduce racist relation of people distributing or even encouraging such creation of things? And one business if I shall buy such thing on EBay for a collecting but absolutely other - to see every day such on a liquid for washing utensils or on a box with milk. It seems to me that not art and really pure racism. Probably it is infinite, as well as is silly. Unfortunately: (
With best wishes, "Russian Post"
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The word of honour, first time I see such denomination! Where it's possible to find the information on it including why the seal is stopped? (except this link)
With best wishes, "Russian Post"
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About this shows: imho the governmental organizations for some reason want to put psychological pressure upon all citizens, sometimes by intimidation and different threats, and all these threats and huge amount of violence is poured out on us directly of the TV - as show and news. An example - you live in any quarter of New York, and once a day in news show the awful crimes accomplished there. What will you make? Buy to itself the most powerful weapon, barricade the house and will sit pending an attack which do not happen never. What for the government operates on ours weak nerves?
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Ruggero,
You refer to CMD as a "marketing firm." Why? What
does it advertise? Itself? It is true that the site
markets some books, but I'm pretty sure the proceeds
are used to support the Center itself. This is not a
profit-driven enterprise. I like to think of it as a
public service site.
During a reply, the right frame certainly, and for that matter also the left frame, is completely non-contributory, and in the way.
I don't want to reduce my font size. I have trouble enough reading it at its presently set size.
If you could use a different template for posting, it'd be a big help.
Other than that, I'm [still] getting used to it.
My solution was intended to be forward moving, not regressive. Although there was a time before the Crusades when muslims, jews, and christians did live in harmony in Jerusalem.
Some people, especially those in power, believe that conflict is ineviatable and necessary. They and weapons manufacturers should be restricted to the income an an infantry soldier.
The [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4726270.stm BBC News reports] that Syrian groups will get $5 million as well:
Thanks for posting it, since I booted that part.
dh,
At no point did I claim that the people of Iraq, or
elsewhere suffer from hubris. Just the opposite.
It's the Bush Administration that is prone to it.
They believe that they know what's best, and they're
always right. Example: bringing Democracy to others
will make everything better. But wait, the
Palestinians elected Hamas, we didn't want that!
The Iraqi people will welcome us with open arms. Some
will, but others will welcome us with arms of a
different type. It's an incredibly paternalistic
view of the world, and it's wrong. I'm all for self-dtermination,
but it should truly be SELF-determination. Not the US's
view of it.
If the Arabic countries are so upset about "seeing
their Palestinian brethren humiliated and brutalized
on a daily basis for 39 years" why have they done
the same? The Palestinians have not been particularly
welcome anywhere. In some countries, they were mistreated.
Why is Israel responsible for the solution? And, just
to make the Israeli arguement, if they want to be
treated better, perhaps they should stop killing people.
Jeez Jimmy, you're all over the map here.
The military strategy accomplished the wholesale sacking of the Iraq Army and overthrow of the Iraq government. It was executed brilliantly, albiet with some deficiencies, as was the 1990 campaign.
Are you sure you're not asking me about the political strategy and the politics of the military-industrial complex? It seems you are more concerned about the political operations (foreign policy, WMD, etc.) than the military operations.
The guy to whom I was speaking is an Anti-American purveyor of hatered. I have a strong belief in checking our actions and evaluating our positions but I have no time for hatred, double speak and disinformation. The author of that garbage is no friend of yours or mine and he would kill us both, with his own hands, if he had the chance; don't kid yourself into thinking otherwise. He is a pompous jackass with a small mind and a tiny microphone, who is attempting to push his amplitude beyond his abilities by employing his inadequate, rudimentary "skill." Don't be fooled by the tin tongue of a "little Hitler."
dh
The obvious is always obvious; and, nothing is ever as it appears.
"If anything I've read in the book is even close to the truth, I'd have to agree"
That's a pretty big if, don't you think?
Especially as some of it's coming from a guy who went
to prison for shredding documents to cover up the
Iran-Contra affair.
All evidence points to a lack of planning and understanding
of the situation in Iraq. Remember how the troops
were going to be greeted as "liberators?" This was
not planned by military strategists, but by political
ones. And it was done to satisfy the whims of a
spoiled rich kid, used to getting what he wants. He
wanted to look like a "leader," not the pathetic excuse
for a grown-up he really is
In a [http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060221/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/rumsfeld follow-up to the above story], Rumsfeld says he misspoke when he said the [[Lincoln Group]] propaganda program in Iraq had been stopped:
Umina boy,
i posted the fix for the text under the right division in the forum text boxes a while ago. For me, using Firefox, the fix was to change my default monospace font-size to 14 or less.
Goto Tools-->Options-->Content
Then under Fonts and colors push the advanced tab, and next to the monospace font selection is the font-size setting.
Dark Horse,
For a military "stretegist" you don't seem to understand military protocol. Once the US finish liberating everybody, Canadian Peacekeepers head over to clean up the mess, dodge "friendly fire" and give aid.
The "brilliant suggestion" was aimed at long term goals. Your comments of an "American bloodbath" could be seen as paranoid, but more likely you were identifying the reality that US foreign policy is fueling hatred towards Americans. Hatred fuels terrorism. There is a WAR on terror. Kind of ironic, hey Dark Horse?
Y'know, they say Lockheed Martin was in financial trouble 5 years ago.
Okay, I challenge you to explain what US military strategy has accomplished in Iraq during this war. It'll be fun! I'll time you.
JG
PS: Doesn't it seem like Saddam is going to win his court case?
"Main stream media utilizes the basest attributes of humanity in its 'news' reporting and 'entertainment' programming because that's all its limited focus can handle. The bottom line is its main concern--not Freedom, not Truth--money!"
Really?~ You mean like Oliver North's program and G. Gordon Liddy's program and Rush Limbaugh's program and Michael Savitch's program?
Better keep reading. Read more books, research all of your sources, learn more about their political leanings, learn more about what else they have written, learn more about the causes they have supported in the past. Research and understand the people you quote before you quote them.
dh
The obvious is always obvious; and, nothing is ever as it appears.
Are you serious? Downsize to the Bagdad Airport?! Well, that would make us a nice easy target, wouldn't it? Why, we could be surrounded and attacked at will by the resident insurgents. What a genius!
Perhaps there is another approach that might be more sensible, eh?
Based on your other comments posted on this board, I am beginning to think you'd personally like to be there, to participate in the American bloodbath that would occur as a result of your "brilliant" suggestion.
Why do you hate the United States so much? Why do you wish us such ill will?
dh
The obvious is always obvious; and, nothing is ever as it appears.
Pressuring Israel to disarm is a strawman. Afterall, there are no nukes in Israel, right?
Ah, one bull sires another.
Here are two statements upon which one might analyze this situation:
Statement Number One: "Israel has no nuclear weapons."
Statement Number Two: "Iran means Israel no harm, therefore Israel needs no nuclear weapons."
You see? Pretty simple isn't it? This is the nature of disengenuous statements such as yours. Intelligent people laugh at them and at those who offer them. Your comments are those of one who presents himself as a low level rhetorical hack.
The fact remains: Israel absolutely must retain its superiority in the middle-east if it is to survive. Neither the United States nor the International Community would attempt to compel Israel to do anything that would leave it vulnerable, specifically because the Arab countries would descend upon its neck with sabers.
You don't like that, so you post your prose, behind a very thin veil, hoping to influence the ignorant.
If you want to posit that the creation of the Israeli state was a crime and that it violates the laws of the very world goverment who founded it, why don't you make your argument like a man? It is not a bad argument but it has to live or die on its own merits.
It is always bad policy to patronize your audience; it is an even worse policy to treat them with contempt.
dh
The obvious is always obvious; and, nothing is ever as it appears.
Why would one project his own perceptions of American "hubris" onto a population he does not know or understand? I think it would not surprise most people to know that most of the people to whom you refer do not stop to ask themselves -let alone do they care- how we perceive them.
Doesn't it strike you as odd that you are so willing to give someone a "free pass" to despise you because you are part of a successful country?
Don't get me wrong, I am no fan of the current imperialistic fervor, however, neither am I unable to recognize that if it weren't us in this position, it would be someone else in this position. That is the nature of men, women and the societies they agree upon.
Let's get something straight: These people to whom you refer are being most immediately subjegated by their own governments, not us. We are merely their largest customer.
Have you seen the palaces, the islands, the automobiles, the gilt and gold and silver and opulence, which goes well beyond most of us "Rich Americans'" wildest abilities to imagine wealth, currently in posession of the leaders of ALL middle-eastern countries? Now take a moment and contrast that opulence against the broad, sweeping and deeply despairing poverty of the vast majority of their people.
Give me a break! The US is not their most immediate problem, their own governments are their primary and most immediate threat.
You think the French Revolution was bad? "You ain't seen nothin' yet!"
These people are just now waking up and while it is very convenient for their governments to point at us as the bad guy in order to draw the heat away from themselves, ultimately these people realize that we have actually been paying the bills expected of us, and it has been their leaders who have absconded with their birthright.
dh
... as a Spin of the Day, here:
http://www.prwatch.org/node/4486
Interesting to note that, although the Bush admin. has surely exhibited a penchant for secrecy, this program is being attributed to the CIA and other spy agencies.
-- Diane
372. Justice Department to probe Leak on Spying Program
There are two kinds of leaking.
1. The leak was done by Feds itself to revenge at their dislikes. Such like "Watergate"case. President Nixon intended to reform D.O.J.. Then there was a deep throat to leak a scandal. Nixon had to resign the job. D.O.J. never did an investigation because it was done by itself. An FBI agent.
Or the Plame's case. D.O.J. never did an active investigation on it. Because the person likely is a member of Bush's administration.
Re: Nixon's case: (the references are two articles I have posted before. I re-post for your convenience.)
295. Who controls D.O.J.? (3/7/05)
Former President Kennedy was assassinated. Former President Clinton was impeached. All these revealed that even in top position, US politicians are under the control of intelligence. They were under the surveillance. They were extorted, blackmailed by intelligence. If they disobeyed, then they were punished by scandal, or even been assassinated.
Former President Nixon was almost impeached. He lost his post in oval office in early 70's. The formal reason was he lied to cover up a tape which might reveal his awareness of illegal campaign activity. But lie and dirty campaign activity were common among high ranking politicians. It was only an excuse. Then what was the real purpose?
In March 2002, a news helped me resolved several puzzles. It was a tape of Nixon's conversation with former treasury secretary Connally.
Re:
Quote, "Nixon Defended Envoy's Groping
1972 Tapes Also Reveal Talk of a Justice Dept. 'Full of Jews'
By George Lardner Jr.
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, March 1, 2002; Page A02
"Oh! Oh, God!" Nixon said with a sigh. "It erodes our confidence, our strength. They're untrustworthy. . . . Look at the Justice Department, it's full of Jews."
"Any place of power," Connally agreed. "SEC used to be -- all of them, those lawyers."
"Listen, the lawyers in government are damn Jews," Nixon said.
Both men agreed that Nixon should try to reduce the Jewish influence in a second term. Nixon told Connally on May 15 that he wanted no more than 2 percent of the government's political appointees to be Jewish, in proportion to the population. He later said 10 percent would be acceptable, "but certainly not 30 or 40 percent."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A20361-2002Feb28.html
I then knew who control Justice department and why Nixon lost his job.
Nixon realized that there was a disproportion of government political appointees to the population. He thought it was not for the interest of US and tried to change that situation. He faced an impeach and had to resign before he could do it.
Now I know why Sharon said, "Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it." - Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, to Shimon Peres, October 8th, 2001
Israel controls D.O.J.. D.O.J. controls FBI. And FBI keep Americans under surveillance, include Presidents.
2. If the leak was done to reveal the scandal of Feds or Bush administration. Then they did an active job to revenge at the purpose to silence it. Justice Department to probe Leak on Spying Program belongs to this one. It's an intimidation on lawmakers to pass the Patriot Act because it will terminated in five weeks.
Re:
89. Polygraph law makers (9/25/02)
In early June, a news said the conversations between Khalid Shaikh Mohammed and Mohammed Atta were intercepted by NSA. It said in two separate conversations on Sept. 10, 2001 contained the phrases "Tomorrow is zero hour" and "The match is about to begin.". Since these two phrases are vague one and consider NSA intercepts 2 million conversations in each hour, the pick up of these two phrases was not a coincidence. It proves that Atta was under surveillance by government earlier before 911.
Then FBI said it was a secret intelligence information which shouldn't be let out public. They are investigating who has leaked it. They target on law makers and even request a polygraph.
But who will investigate the secret information leaking committed by intelligence itself?
When the news said Atta made contact to Iraq diplomat in Czech and talked about bombing plot, it revealed that Atta and Iraq diplomat were under surveillance and it revealed the Czech intelligence was cooperated with USA.
There was another similar news release. By February 2001, NSA had broken the bin Laden's communications encryption system. What we know from the information government released is that OBL talked to his mother two days before 911 attack, "In two days, you're going to hear big news, and you're not going to hear from me for a while." It let people know that Bin laden's communication was under surveillance as long as 6 months before 911. And his communication code was broken.
Nobody could release such information but intelligence. Though the original purpose of news about Atta and Iraq diplomat was to target on Iraq to frame it linking with 911 terrorist, so administration could have excuse to start a war with Iraq. And the news of Bin Laden's intercepted conversation was used as a legal base for Bush to start war in Afghan. These leaking are as important as the Atta's "Tomorrow is zero huor" one. Why FBI had a blind eye on these leaking? Because they were released by intelligence?
The secret information leaking FBI accused of took place in early June, at a time when lawmakers and 911 victims were going to investigate failure of intelligence of 911 attack with an independent commission. It could be a trap set up by intelligence. They use this method to retaliate, or extort law makers to avoid investigation on their own flaw or crime. Or try to reach a compromise.
If we don't know these "secrecy", we will believe what government said that they had known nothing before 911 attack. "Secret" is only a stonewall they used to cover up their corruption.
356. Tsunami, flooding and meteorite (11/7/05)
Now let's go back to Anthony Carr's prophecy again.The two paragraph without picture. (see #324)
1. Meteorite hits US. A super size meteorite will hit a desert city of America.
2. Big lake area will become a water country. Storm will sweep over the boundary of US and Canada. There will be a great flooding in Big Lake area. Few boat will survive it as Noah's Ark. Besides, nuclear explosion will cause tsunami in Cuba. Half of Cuba will be drowned.
Since I think Anthony Carr's words were no more than Inside group's project covered up by the name of "prophecy", I kept an eye on "tsunami, flooding and meteorite."
In December 2004, there came the Big tsunami. In August 2005, there came the big flooding in New Orleans. Then what about meteorite? It came in December 2004 though didn't draw much attention. Here are news about it.
Quote, "Meteor Explodes Over Jakarta
Josh Pringle
Sunday, December 19, 2004
Astronomers say a meteor likely exploded over the Indonesian capital of Jakarta Sunday morning.
Witnesses say there was a bright object with a tail of fire streaked across the sky, and then there was a loud explosion.
http://www.cfra.com/headlines/index.asp?cat=2&nid=22930"
Quote, "Unknown object falls on Indonesia
Meteor or bomb? Officials not sure, no injuries known
Jakarta, Indonesia (AP)
Indonesia air force radar detected an unidentified object falling toward the Earth at a great speed before disappearing at around the same time as the noise was heard.
Police have been on high alert in Indonesia in recent days after several Western governments reported that Islamist militants, blamed for a series of attacks in recent years, were planning more bombings."
(Mercury News, 12/19/04)
I believe it was an experiment of space weapon. A practice of a missile cruised in space to hit the target on earth. But a missile is not a meteor. Everything would be clear if there was an investigation. That's why the news drew a tail, to hint it might be a terrorist bombing. But they could make people believe that without any practical exercises, (hundreds of hours at least, I suppose) the students of flight school could actually drive a modern plane to hit any target they wanted. It's still hard to ensure people that Bin Laden also has a space weapon. So we never hear anything further about that meteor.
It's not a coincidence that both events which Anthony Carr prophecied (tsunami and meteor) took place in Indonesia, almost at same time. (12/19/04 for meteor, one week later, on 12/26, for tsunami)
Because two months ago, in October that year, Yudhoyono became the President of Indonesia. Inside group then had a safe place to carry out their experiment for new technology under the protection of a puppet dictator.
What about the flooding? Eight months later, we saw Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans.
All in a life can be simplified and here as I understand the following situation: the country received the certain income from export (which probably has already been allocated for some nearest years) but then there was a unforeseen situation(illness). Further many organizations tried to solve a problem in the image, but result is one - infection was not supervised, and the budget has lost a plenty of money. For such situation all is standard, but also to make anything it was impossible - to reduce charges only.
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The government again starts to create intrigues. The new program of anti-terror? Huh. Government's last actions has simply nothing to cover the dark affairs, they and have created this stupid "antiterrorist" program. If to think it is very convenient - if you need to remove any person not necessarily him to arrest and then to prove to press that this person it is dangerous not personally to you and represents the international threat. And now all is easier - we specify a finger the person and speak - "He's represent threat of national safety". All are pleased and happy. The world is rescued from terror.
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This is a bullshit! How it's possible to make such things? Most of all I am interested by how it is possible to reduce racist relation of people distributing or even encouraging such creation of things? And one business if I shall buy such thing on EBay for a collecting but absolutely other - to see every day such on a liquid for washing utensils or on a box with milk. It seems to me that not art and really pure racism. Probably it is infinite, as well as is silly. Unfortunately: (
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The word of honour, first time I see such denomination! Where it's possible to find the information on it including why the seal is stopped? (except this link)
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About this shows: imho the governmental organizations for some reason want to put psychological pressure upon all citizens, sometimes by intimidation and different threats, and all these threats and huge amount of violence is poured out on us directly of the TV - as show and news. An example - you live in any quarter of New York, and once a day in news show the awful crimes accomplished there. What will you make? Buy to itself the most powerful weapon, barricade the house and will sit pending an attack which do not happen never. What for the government operates on ours weak nerves?
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Ruggero,
You refer to CMD as a "marketing firm." Why? What
does it advertise? Itself? It is true that the site
markets some books, but I'm pretty sure the proceeds
are used to support the Center itself. This is not a
profit-driven enterprise. I like to think of it as a
public service site.