Who said other issues weren't being addressed? WHERE did they say it? That's misinformation. Gun manufacturers, like other greedy corporations, don't give a hoot for the citizen. The impact on our standard of living has been drastic. Not acceptable.
Our first amendment now bans hate speech. Hate speech is not for the good of all.
Other countries have the same movies and video games. Our murder rate is up to 30X higher. The difference? Gun control. Notice: control, not banned.
We make a CHOICE. We can watch, turn it off or change the channel. My kids see nothing without my consent. Parental controls on the internet work as well. Violence via media affects those already headed that way. I've watch violent films. I've NEVER given a thought to doing the same. NEWS isn't news much of the time. I never automatically believe what I hear or read. I fact check.
I will NEVER support weapons our troops use to ASSAULT as part of the private sector, abusing this right. Accidental, in the line of fire, reactionary gun murder aren't on my bucket list.
That given, I would never support repealing the second amendment. It needs to pertain to today, not 200 years ago. Our environment is radically different.
Mental health was basically dropped-tax cuts were WAY more important. Reagan was the first to limit mental health. And this has helped us HOW?
It's not just the mass murderers.
Because of economic crisis,domestic violence is rising and 92% of of domestic death involves a gun. Homicide/suicide. Kids already showing symptoms of personality disorder are ignored and the parents have nowhere to turn. Almost 40% of medical health is mental issues. Societal violence affects MY mental health at times.
"It is totally and utterly hypocritical to speak of 'gun control' without addressing the causes of gun viokence."
Sorry, you're going to get even more fed up. Demands for gun control aren't going away, because others are more and more fed up with with gun violence.
For one thing, the people who cling to the mantra "Guns don't kill people, people kill people" are, by and large, the very same people who most hate having their tax dollars spent on social services. You know, dealing with people problems.
For another thing, whether you like it or not, "addressing the causes of gun violence" isn't going to work without limiting the availability of guns. You can shame the violent video gamers all you want, but as long as the guns are there, it's only going to strengthen the appeal of guns to people who shouldn't have them guns.
And there's really no way you can escape this: fewer rounds per magazine, fewer kills per killing spree. Fewer guns, more criminals having to make do with knives or baseball bats and therefore fewer deaths.
It's going to take generations of biting the bullet at both ends -- ponying up for social services and limiting gun proliferation -- to make a serious difference.
I am really fed up with the emphasis being placed on guns rather than mental health or the benefits of banning violence in movies, on TV and in video games. It is totally and utterly hypocritical to speak of "gun control" without addressing the causes of gun viokence. Psychologists have known for many decades that the depiction of violence predisposes people, even normal college students, to violence. What do you think happens when unstable persons are filled with the kinds of things depicted in our media? Criminals will always gain access to guns, and so will the mentally ill if they are sufficiently determined. Why don't you talk about removing violence from the media? Free speech, as protected in the constitution, was never meant to protect the filth and insanity that pours daily from the media in the U.S. I consider myself a liberal, but I am thoroughly disgusted by the refusal of other supposed liberals to deal with the real causes.
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Dear Bruce:
Thank you for your kind note!! I would love to come back to Delaware to speak and meet with other concerned citizens. Please send along your email to editor@prwatch.org.
Lisa
When I go about without an arm, I am not disarmed. To be disarmed I must consciously go about without an arm, and I never think of that at all: I do think about going out without the right glasses because sometimes I do that. I am perfectly free to be inclined and determined to commit crimes, or to say, "Hi, Bob, how's it going."
It must be sad to have to forego foreign travel since everywhere outside the US, almost without exception, there are very strict gun ownership, or gun-carry laws. When Americans are present, to be polite, people in foreign countries do try to seem fearful about being shot, but they're not really good at it because they watch too many bad movies. Does feeling no risk of getting shot in a foreign country take any pleasure out of travel? Low crawling about cobble-stone streets could wear out the elbows of your shirt. Dodging in and out of hedges looking fearful and violent could be taken for mime practice, or off-date Easter Egg hunting.
When I was in the military, I got to carry a 'rifle.' One never says 'gun.' If you do say the bad-word some sergeant will tell you, "Soldier, here is my rifle, and here is my gun (pointing to his privates), this is for shooting, that one's for fun." After packing an M-14 rifle about all day, carrying an arm lost some of its fascination. Carrying, or bearing arms is no problem for me; I'm just against putting bullets in them and shooting them. There may be less risk of private arms falling into the wrong hands if personal arms were bonded to the owner with Super-glue, or some surgical intervention. If you're wondering why I'm talking like this, the answer is I've tried using calm, sensible arguments, and it's been so disappointing, I've decided to just talk to myself. With a little practice it's possible to break the habit of killing, or being killed. It's slightly harder than learning to not fall upstairs, but you get the same achievement badge.
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Ms. Graves, may I send my sincere congratulations to you. I live in Delaware. I saw you give a talk (as I was invited by the ACLU of Delaware), it was so cool to hear you. That was several years ago. Any chance you might come to Delaware again? I understand you must have incredibly busy in the time since then, dealing not only with outragous laws which erode people's civil liberties, on top of that, Citizens United, which many people find disturbing. And I've certainly noticed you've been at the forefront of opposing C.U. Again, my congrats. Take care. Bruce Tucker, Artist, Patriot, Newark, Delaware
In the aftermath of Newtown, CT and amid the debate about gun control, I would like to point out that the guns bought by Nancy Lanza for her own defense in the end did not save her life.
The NARA = National Assault Rifle Association with their buddies ALEC the Anti-American Unlegislation Short Change Cowards - see alecexposed.org please. The NARA said today the answer is more guns! Of course. There course that leads to more profits and more and more of the same. Hell no! Casterate the NRA, tax ALEC-they are lobbyists, and petition our government for a redress of our grievances demanding that gun legislation be passed NOW!!! to ban assault rifles and large magazine clips retroactively and to create lots more gun restrictions, lots more! We must work now with this momentum.
Concealed Carry is allowed in most state office buildings in Wisconsin. In contrast, UW and many local governments do not allow guns in their buildings. Allowing Concealed Carry in state office buildings does change the security situation for anyone in those buildings. The change was implemented with no input from the workers who must spend 8 hours each day in these buildings. I don't think it's right. People who have to work there should have some input in such a serious security policy change.
Upshot: Blame it on crazy monsters, blame it on the media, blame it on video games, blame it on everybody but us, the people who are actually pouring more and more guns into this already gun-saturated country for the crazies to pick up!
Put Good Guys with Guns in all the schools. That way you can feel your kids are protected while we keep out money pumps running by selling more and more guns!
Shock and outrage indeed. It must have come as a shock to La Pierre that the backlash after Sandy Hook might rise to more than just a routine damage control exercise.
HOW DO WE GET RID OF THIS GUY...FAST? AMERICANS MUST STAND UP AND FIGHT BACK UNTIL WE GET RID OF EVERY SINGLE TEAPARTY/REPUBLIKKKLAN IN THE HOUSE AND SENATE! THEY ARE EVIL, EVIL, EVIL, EVIL! END THE TERROR REIGN OF THE NAZI KOCH-ROACH BROS.
As a child, seeing guns hanging in the gun racks on the wall was common. These weren't locked away, nor did anyone of us kids dare touch any of them. My mom has always keep loaded weapons throughout the home - as does the rest of the family, except me due to having a mentally ill child not for fear of them hurting others but themselves. We consider it our right, however none of the 100 cousin's or relatives agree with the need for owning an AR. We all agree these should be BANNED. Yes, I have shot the AR's many times as both military and a civilian - however, I see no need for civilian's to own AR's. I am all for banning AR's and most of the general public for the simple reason when we say you have a right to protect yourself, none would expect you would need one to protect yourself from 50+ people - but at the most 5, but more commonly 1 - which you don't need an AR for 1. That is really responsible ownership!
“Laws that forbid the carrying of arms… disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes… Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.”
Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not.
Walker makes me sick. Why did the people of Wisconsin vote to keep him in office. He should be in prison, not the Governor's Mansion! And this moron in Slinger should be locked up in a psych ward and be made to play Russian Roulette 10 times daily, then see how much he likes guns! What kind of asshole shoots a kid for hiding on his porch? And what kind of law enforcement officials and DA doesn't press charges for this? This so-called Castle Doctrine law is ludicrous. It is just the kind of legal loophole that all the morons with guns who are just itching to shoot someone can use to get away with it. "Threat" my ass!
Let's see: If all or any terrorists went to the airport looking like a terrorist, it could be very upsetting to law abiding people (sworn on the airport bible with a cast of thousands) who dressed down just because they wanted to wear frumpy clothes and be sloppy comfortable. The commercial fallout is too screaming obvious to say, which is why all terrorists have been requested to dress nicely and not stick out their tongues in isolation booths.
If you want to avoid suspicion at airports, dress as if you just crawled out from under a bridge, and, what is more, that way the ‘bad guys’ will stand out like practical-jokers and bankers.
What hasn't been widely understood is that gun loving terrorists— birds of a feather —have infiltrated the NRA (Not Really Awful) to support weapons-grade freedom, and several of the terrorist lobbies are openly feeding Congress, the monkeys, Fred Bosbee's grandmother, already spell-checked legislation in favor of deporting any person found on US soil without a functioning, bullet pumping (not caps, not water, not flags that say "Boom") mass-consumption weapon of considerable local destruction.
Instead of whacking a baby on the backside at birth, fire a wake-up round next his/her/their ear, then hand him/her/them a first baptismal birth-arm, and from that point Fort Knox is the limit— the sky is a place to shoot things out of. It's only a question of time before the real-guys-with-guns at the Never Reasonable Android can come out of the gun-closet and speak openly for violent, cinema-grade fun, and an end to bumming people out at airports.
You say, "The AR-15 or AK-47 platforms today are nothing more than an average semi-automatic hunting rifle and that is what they are used for."
Obviously you are not a hunter. Someone who has to use this type of weapon for hunting is not properly trained and/or skilled enough to be a hunter, and should therefore not be allowed to possess a hunting license.
You say, "When only police and military are allowed to have weapons, the country becomes corrupt and very dangerous as is Mexico today."
Knock it off with the strawman "ban ALL weapons" nonsense. Gun control advocates aren't asking for a complete ban. They're asking for a ban on ONLY military-style assault weapons and high-capacity clips, both of which are completely unnecessary for civilians to own.
You say, "when you compare the US to other smaller countries, the total population should be considered."
Did you even read the linked report? Obviously not. Even the article stated: "the gun murder rate in the U.S. is almost 20 times higher than the next 22 richest and most populous nations combined."
See that? 20 times higher than the next 22 MOST POPULOUS NATIONS COMBINED. Sounds to me like population was indeed considered.
You say, "30 people a year are killed by guns."
Where on earth do you get that figure? The actual figure is well over 30,000 per year.
You say, "The other issue is that many gun deaths are accidental or suicides. I have not seen any mention of this."
It's in the linked report. READ IT.
You say, "Don't sway them to make them look like our country is full of murderers. That is just not the case."
So, the murder of 20 innocent children is NOT a big deal to you?! And the loss of their precious lives should only be viewed from the perspective of the entire population?! That is INSANE.
You say, "there was an incident in China where a madman stabbed many small children to death with a big knife."
God, you are SO full of misinformation. NOT A SINGLE victim DIED in that incident!
You say, "China is more populous than we are. I guarantee there are a lot of mass murders in China and likely Russia too."
And I guarantee you are WRONG. Do your research before spouting such nonsense.
You say, "many of these anti-gun people don't know how to look at things mathematically...that is wrong."
NO, what's WRONG is the murder of 27 innocent children and adults. What's WRONG is the senseless loss of life. What's WRONG is looking at this and other tragedies "mathematically" and in terms of population size. What's truly WRONG is ANY innocent life taken. And what's WRONG is NOT doing anything to prevent another.
Your Switzerland argument does not hold water. Switzerland does not have a standing army, instead opting for a peoples' militia for its national defense. The vast majority of men between the ages of 20 and 30 are conscripted into the militia and undergo military training, including weapons training. The personal weapons of the militia are kept at home as part of their military obligations.
AND... only 2,000 specialist militia members (who protect airports and other sites of particular sensitivity) are permitted to keep their military-issued ammunition at home. The rest of the militia get their ammunition from their military armory in the event of an emergency.
"PR Options" is unknown in the PR agency world; they are not charging Congressional Jack for their services.
Who said other issues weren't being addressed? WHERE did they say it? That's misinformation. Gun manufacturers, like other greedy corporations, don't give a hoot for the citizen. The impact on our standard of living has been drastic. Not acceptable.
Our first amendment now bans hate speech. Hate speech is not for the good of all.
Other countries have the same movies and video games. Our murder rate is up to 30X higher. The difference? Gun control. Notice: control, not banned.
We make a CHOICE. We can watch, turn it off or change the channel. My kids see nothing without my consent. Parental controls on the internet work as well. Violence via media affects those already headed that way. I've watch violent films. I've NEVER given a thought to doing the same. NEWS isn't news much of the time. I never automatically believe what I hear or read. I fact check.
I will NEVER support weapons our troops use to ASSAULT as part of the private sector, abusing this right. Accidental, in the line of fire, reactionary gun murder aren't on my bucket list.
That given, I would never support repealing the second amendment. It needs to pertain to today, not 200 years ago. Our environment is radically different.
Mental health was basically dropped-tax cuts were WAY more important. Reagan was the first to limit mental health. And this has helped us HOW?
It's not just the mass murderers.
Because of economic crisis,domestic violence is rising and 92% of of domestic death involves a gun. Homicide/suicide. Kids already showing symptoms of personality disorder are ignored and the parents have nowhere to turn. Almost 40% of medical health is mental issues. Societal violence affects MY mental health at times.
"It is totally and utterly hypocritical to speak of 'gun control' without addressing the causes of gun viokence."
Sorry, you're going to get even more fed up. Demands for gun control aren't going away, because others are more and more fed up with with gun violence.
For one thing, the people who cling to the mantra "Guns don't kill people, people kill people" are, by and large, the very same people who most hate having their tax dollars spent on social services. You know, dealing with people problems.
For another thing, whether you like it or not, "addressing the causes of gun violence" isn't going to work without limiting the availability of guns. You can shame the violent video gamers all you want, but as long as the guns are there, it's only going to strengthen the appeal of guns to people who shouldn't have them guns.
And there's really no way you can escape this: fewer rounds per magazine, fewer kills per killing spree. Fewer guns, more criminals having to make do with knives or baseball bats and therefore fewer deaths.
It's going to take generations of biting the bullet at both ends -- ponying up for social services and limiting gun proliferation -- to make a serious difference.
How does the argument fail? If she had had a gun with her no matter where she and the students were, she could have shot the guy. pure and simple.
I am really fed up with the emphasis being placed on guns rather than mental health or the benefits of banning violence in movies, on TV and in video games. It is totally and utterly hypocritical to speak of "gun control" without addressing the causes of gun viokence. Psychologists have known for many decades that the depiction of violence predisposes people, even normal college students, to violence. What do you think happens when unstable persons are filled with the kinds of things depicted in our media? Criminals will always gain access to guns, and so will the mentally ill if they are sufficiently determined. Why don't you talk about removing violence from the media? Free speech, as protected in the constitution, was never meant to protect the filth and insanity that pours daily from the media in the U.S. I consider myself a liberal, but I am thoroughly disgusted by the refusal of other supposed liberals to deal with the real causes.
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Dear Bruce:
Thank you for your kind note!! I would love to come back to Delaware to speak and meet with other concerned citizens. Please send along your email to editor@prwatch.org.
Lisa
When I go about without an arm, I am not disarmed. To be disarmed I must consciously go about without an arm, and I never think of that at all: I do think about going out without the right glasses because sometimes I do that. I am perfectly free to be inclined and determined to commit crimes, or to say, "Hi, Bob, how's it going."
It must be sad to have to forego foreign travel since everywhere outside the US, almost without exception, there are very strict gun ownership, or gun-carry laws. When Americans are present, to be polite, people in foreign countries do try to seem fearful about being shot, but they're not really good at it because they watch too many bad movies. Does feeling no risk of getting shot in a foreign country take any pleasure out of travel? Low crawling about cobble-stone streets could wear out the elbows of your shirt. Dodging in and out of hedges looking fearful and violent could be taken for mime practice, or off-date Easter Egg hunting.
When I was in the military, I got to carry a 'rifle.' One never says 'gun.' If you do say the bad-word some sergeant will tell you, "Soldier, here is my rifle, and here is my gun (pointing to his privates), this is for shooting, that one's for fun." After packing an M-14 rifle about all day, carrying an arm lost some of its fascination. Carrying, or bearing arms is no problem for me; I'm just against putting bullets in them and shooting them. There may be less risk of private arms falling into the wrong hands if personal arms were bonded to the owner with Super-glue, or some surgical intervention. If you're wondering why I'm talking like this, the answer is I've tried using calm, sensible arguments, and it's been so disappointing, I've decided to just talk to myself. With a little practice it's possible to break the habit of killing, or being killed. It's slightly harder than learning to not fall upstairs, but you get the same achievement badge.
How do you want it to be? People who joined @10 think that regular Americans and subject matter experts – not government or the media -- are in the best position to solve problems. They want to build and share examples of those strategies from communities across the country. They want an easier way to participate, solve problems, and hold leaders accountable between election. www.at10us.com
Ms. Graves, may I send my sincere congratulations to you. I live in Delaware. I saw you give a talk (as I was invited by the ACLU of Delaware), it was so cool to hear you. That was several years ago. Any chance you might come to Delaware again? I understand you must have incredibly busy in the time since then, dealing not only with outragous laws which erode people's civil liberties, on top of that, Citizens United, which many people find disturbing. And I've certainly noticed you've been at the forefront of opposing C.U. Again, my congrats. Take care. Bruce Tucker, Artist, Patriot, Newark, Delaware
In the aftermath of Newtown, CT and amid the debate about gun control, I would like to point out that the guns bought by Nancy Lanza for her own defense in the end did not save her life.
The NARA = National Assault Rifle Association with their buddies ALEC the Anti-American Unlegislation Short Change Cowards - see alecexposed.org please. The NARA said today the answer is more guns! Of course. There course that leads to more profits and more and more of the same. Hell no! Casterate the NRA, tax ALEC-they are lobbyists, and petition our government for a redress of our grievances demanding that gun legislation be passed NOW!!! to ban assault rifles and large magazine clips retroactively and to create lots more gun restrictions, lots more! We must work now with this momentum.
Concealed Carry is allowed in most state office buildings in Wisconsin. In contrast, UW and many local governments do not allow guns in their buildings. Allowing Concealed Carry in state office buildings does change the security situation for anyone in those buildings. The change was implemented with no input from the workers who must spend 8 hours each day in these buildings. I don't think it's right. People who have to work there should have some input in such a serious security policy change.
Just saw LaPierre's Shock & Outrage performance.
Upshot: Blame it on crazy monsters, blame it on the media, blame it on video games, blame it on everybody but us, the people who are actually pouring more and more guns into this already gun-saturated country for the crazies to pick up!
Put Good Guys with Guns in all the schools. That way you can feel your kids are protected while we keep out money pumps running by selling more and more guns!
Shock and outrage indeed. It must have come as a shock to La Pierre that the backlash after Sandy Hook might rise to more than just a routine damage control exercise.
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Thank you, Janis!! I really appreciate your note and your kind words!! Lisa
HOW DO WE GET RID OF THIS GUY...FAST? AMERICANS MUST STAND UP AND FIGHT BACK UNTIL WE GET RID OF EVERY SINGLE TEAPARTY/REPUBLIKKKLAN IN THE HOUSE AND SENATE! THEY ARE EVIL, EVIL, EVIL, EVIL! END THE TERROR REIGN OF THE NAZI KOCH-ROACH BROS.
As a child, seeing guns hanging in the gun racks on the wall was common. These weren't locked away, nor did anyone of us kids dare touch any of them. My mom has always keep loaded weapons throughout the home - as does the rest of the family, except me due to having a mentally ill child not for fear of them hurting others but themselves. We consider it our right, however none of the 100 cousin's or relatives agree with the need for owning an AR. We all agree these should be BANNED. Yes, I have shot the AR's many times as both military and a civilian - however, I see no need for civilian's to own AR's. I am all for banning AR's and most of the general public for the simple reason when we say you have a right to protect yourself, none would expect you would need one to protect yourself from 50+ people - but at the most 5, but more commonly 1 - which you don't need an AR for 1. That is really responsible ownership!
“Laws that forbid the carrying of arms… disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes… Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.”
Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not.
Walker makes me sick. Why did the people of Wisconsin vote to keep him in office. He should be in prison, not the Governor's Mansion! And this moron in Slinger should be locked up in a psych ward and be made to play Russian Roulette 10 times daily, then see how much he likes guns! What kind of asshole shoots a kid for hiding on his porch? And what kind of law enforcement officials and DA doesn't press charges for this? This so-called Castle Doctrine law is ludicrous. It is just the kind of legal loophole that all the morons with guns who are just itching to shoot someone can use to get away with it. "Threat" my ass!
Let's see: If all or any terrorists went to the airport looking like a terrorist, it could be very upsetting to law abiding people (sworn on the airport bible with a cast of thousands) who dressed down just because they wanted to wear frumpy clothes and be sloppy comfortable. The commercial fallout is too screaming obvious to say, which is why all terrorists have been requested to dress nicely and not stick out their tongues in isolation booths.
If you want to avoid suspicion at airports, dress as if you just crawled out from under a bridge, and, what is more, that way the ‘bad guys’ will stand out like practical-jokers and bankers.
What hasn't been widely understood is that gun loving terrorists— birds of a feather —have infiltrated the NRA (Not Really Awful) to support weapons-grade freedom, and several of the terrorist lobbies are openly feeding Congress, the monkeys, Fred Bosbee's grandmother, already spell-checked legislation in favor of deporting any person found on US soil without a functioning, bullet pumping (not caps, not water, not flags that say "Boom") mass-consumption weapon of considerable local destruction.
Instead of whacking a baby on the backside at birth, fire a wake-up round next his/her/their ear, then hand him/her/them a first baptismal birth-arm, and from that point Fort Knox is the limit— the sky is a place to shoot things out of. It's only a question of time before the real-guys-with-guns at the Never Reasonable Android can come out of the gun-closet and speak openly for violent, cinema-grade fun, and an end to bumming people out at airports.
Human waste or animal waste, shit is shit.
You say, "The AR-15 or AK-47 platforms today are nothing more than an average semi-automatic hunting rifle and that is what they are used for."
Obviously you are not a hunter. Someone who has to use this type of weapon for hunting is not properly trained and/or skilled enough to be a hunter, and should therefore not be allowed to possess a hunting license.
You say, "When only police and military are allowed to have weapons, the country becomes corrupt and very dangerous as is Mexico today."
Knock it off with the strawman "ban ALL weapons" nonsense. Gun control advocates aren't asking for a complete ban. They're asking for a ban on ONLY military-style assault weapons and high-capacity clips, both of which are completely unnecessary for civilians to own.
You say, "when you compare the US to other smaller countries, the total population should be considered."
Did you even read the linked report? Obviously not. Even the article stated: "the gun murder rate in the U.S. is almost 20 times higher than the next 22 richest and most populous nations combined."
See that? 20 times higher than the next 22 MOST POPULOUS NATIONS COMBINED. Sounds to me like population was indeed considered.
You say, "30 people a year are killed by guns."
Where on earth do you get that figure? The actual figure is well over 30,000 per year.
You say, "The other issue is that many gun deaths are accidental or suicides. I have not seen any mention of this."
It's in the linked report. READ IT.
You say, "Don't sway them to make them look like our country is full of murderers. That is just not the case."
So, the murder of 20 innocent children is NOT a big deal to you?! And the loss of their precious lives should only be viewed from the perspective of the entire population?! That is INSANE.
You say, "there was an incident in China where a madman stabbed many small children to death with a big knife."
God, you are SO full of misinformation. NOT A SINGLE victim DIED in that incident!
You say, "China is more populous than we are. I guarantee there are a lot of mass murders in China and likely Russia too."
And I guarantee you are WRONG. Do your research before spouting such nonsense.
You say, "many of these anti-gun people don't know how to look at things mathematically...that is wrong."
NO, what's WRONG is the murder of 27 innocent children and adults. What's WRONG is the senseless loss of life. What's WRONG is looking at this and other tragedies "mathematically" and in terms of population size. What's truly WRONG is ANY innocent life taken. And what's WRONG is NOT doing anything to prevent another.
Your Switzerland argument does not hold water. Switzerland does not have a standing army, instead opting for a peoples' militia for its national defense. The vast majority of men between the ages of 20 and 30 are conscripted into the militia and undergo military training, including weapons training. The personal weapons of the militia are kept at home as part of their military obligations.
AND... only 2,000 specialist militia members (who protect airports and other sites of particular sensitivity) are permitted to keep their military-issued ammunition at home. The rest of the militia get their ammunition from their military armory in the event of an emergency.
Switzerland argument: FAIL.
Gohmert says, "I wish to God she had had an M-4 in her office, locked up so when she heard gunfire, she pulls it out."
Except she wasn't IN her office when the shooter attacked. She was in the library.
Gohmert argument FAIL.